The question was
“so my question for you is this: what are the reasons upon which you have based your foundation of faith, or the lack of for that matter, and what led you to that conclusion?”
Really that's asking WHY do I believe in "god" or Why do I believe in LOVE?
It would take me 42 years to tell you that. Took me 42 years to be who I am. So I'll brief it down. Going back to the beginning, the very beginning.
If hatred had been the guiding force that caused our universe to evolve, it would be a much different place. Gravity would push away instead of attract. Objects of matter would drift apart, instead of gather in spheres. The big bang would be impossible because no attraction/gravity would be there to hold together a singularity powerful enough to explode.
No love could say “I like this, (natural selection) lets keep it” No love could desire to do it again, or to remember. No will to remember would mean any records or memories would be pointless. So DNA would never be motivated to form. Besides even the atoms of DNA would not be attracted to each other. All.. even the tiniest particle would drift apart, separate and lonely and unloved. With no desire to share their reality with anyone, or anything.
So does LOVE exist OH YEAH……!
Can we see evidence of an all powerful all loving personal god, in our everyday lives? No. That's why we need faith. And the complex, many and varied religious excuses we use as to why god let things go wrong.
But it's not the universe that went wrong, it is us who are wrong.
We are babies, children.
All babies come in to life through childbirth pains. No pain no gain. If you can't feel you can't feel love. But love hurts, until you become familiar with it, or family with it. It is an acquired taste. Love is the liquid Karma of life's energy. You need it to create life.
But don't tell the kids they aren't ready to hear the deep dark secrets of life. There little ears will burn.
Saturday, May 17, 2008
Friday, May 16, 2008
How did god evolve?
Creation means made so I made this up. I believe I am thinking logically here but my logic is created/made. So……made up logic might be made up to agree with whats been made up.
I can speak to you. But if I was born alone I would have no need to speak at all. So if god exists he could not have always spoken a language. Certainly not English anyway. Life I can just about get my head around could have always existed. But the things life has created, must be new additions to that life. (thought up, made up, worked out) So many aspects of what we think of as the stereo type god, are just things that he created, or parts of his persona that evolved, developed over time.The original, pure un-evolved god, wouldn't have had these personality traits or insights, yet.
That's not to say god is less than we are, any less evolved, now. But once he may in a sense have been so. Even memory as we know it, is very thought based. Emotions once learned seems to create instinctive memory of the emotional lessons.
Our eyes and our brain if they evolved separately would have had to go for some period where we could not see the world outside of our bodies, yet we had eyes. While our brain developed a 3D program to process it. Meanwhile we still see with our brains eye like we do in dreams. While we were evolving we would be more like animals less wordy, more instinct driven by emotional memories rather than recorded thoughts. Not to say that a record is not always being kept, in DNA. But was anyone reading it? Or did it just feel right to write that DNA pattern down somewhere?
Like dreams that are harder to remember when we move to the next thought. Easy to forget. If god exists then all these patterns are placed there deliberately to teach us an important truth. If no god exists, evolution left them there for us to discover an important truth, either way that truth remains the same. Without time to construct the way we remember and process our thoughts, we would still be like animals. With instinct. Feeling certain ways are better because they feel good. So natural selection the feel good factor, definitely chooses the path for gods creation. Because they felt like the right selection to keep.
If in this way god could evolved first. So that then, we as humans decided to choose not to learn by being told, by god, what was “good and bad.” But by learning the hard way, (Trial and error, evolution! Selecting what works for us) that method which god himself used once to become who he is or… or is BECOMING.
The theory of everything The birth of hydrogen the first lucid dream.
I wrote the blog in this link to express what if god was born only when he started to develop long term memory? Then realised he was alive and real.
Maybe we are still waiting for the highest god to evolve IN and through US. Showing us it is true,not telling but proving, when we see us being peaceful, loving, united. Actual evidence of all powerful love....
Yet there is wisdom in learning from birth pains…….
I can speak to you. But if I was born alone I would have no need to speak at all. So if god exists he could not have always spoken a language. Certainly not English anyway. Life I can just about get my head around could have always existed. But the things life has created, must be new additions to that life. (thought up, made up, worked out) So many aspects of what we think of as the stereo type god, are just things that he created, or parts of his persona that evolved, developed over time.The original, pure un-evolved god, wouldn't have had these personality traits or insights, yet.
That's not to say god is less than we are, any less evolved, now. But once he may in a sense have been so. Even memory as we know it, is very thought based. Emotions once learned seems to create instinctive memory of the emotional lessons.
Our eyes and our brain if they evolved separately would have had to go for some period where we could not see the world outside of our bodies, yet we had eyes. While our brain developed a 3D program to process it. Meanwhile we still see with our brains eye like we do in dreams. While we were evolving we would be more like animals less wordy, more instinct driven by emotional memories rather than recorded thoughts. Not to say that a record is not always being kept, in DNA. But was anyone reading it? Or did it just feel right to write that DNA pattern down somewhere?
Like dreams that are harder to remember when we move to the next thought. Easy to forget. If god exists then all these patterns are placed there deliberately to teach us an important truth. If no god exists, evolution left them there for us to discover an important truth, either way that truth remains the same. Without time to construct the way we remember and process our thoughts, we would still be like animals. With instinct. Feeling certain ways are better because they feel good. So natural selection the feel good factor, definitely chooses the path for gods creation. Because they felt like the right selection to keep.
If in this way god could evolved first. So that then, we as humans decided to choose not to learn by being told, by god, what was “good and bad.” But by learning the hard way, (Trial and error, evolution! Selecting what works for us) that method which god himself used once to become who he is or… or is BECOMING.
The theory of everything The birth of hydrogen the first lucid dream.
I wrote the blog in this link to express what if god was born only when he started to develop long term memory? Then realised he was alive and real.
Maybe we are still waiting for the highest god to evolve IN and through US. Showing us it is true,not telling but proving, when we see us being peaceful, loving, united. Actual evidence of all powerful love....
Yet there is wisdom in learning from birth pains…….
GKar is a wise old soul
LISTEN TO THIS what is god.mp3
“fascinating perspective. however, to suggest that one 'knows' that the light of the search is God, would seem to neglect the possibility that God is the wall upon which the light may shine. ever present, waiting with infinite patience to be illuminated by our search lights”
I don't know….. I just always believed that GKar was talking of us all being parts of god so the search is god not for god.
The light is not god, the wall is not god. God is the seeker trying to understand him/herself. Trying to manifest himself in all places as love. If we all find him he will be illuminated in us as the result of the search. As the unity produced and the peace achieved.
“fascinating perspective. however, to suggest that one 'knows' that the light of the search is God, would seem to neglect the possibility that God is the wall upon which the light may shine. ever present, waiting with infinite patience to be illuminated by our search lights”
I don't know….. I just always believed that GKar was talking of us all being parts of god so the search is god not for god.
The light is not god, the wall is not god. God is the seeker trying to understand him/herself. Trying to manifest himself in all places as love. If we all find him he will be illuminated in us as the result of the search. As the unity produced and the peace achieved.
WHERE ARE WE GOING?
“I think that all life is consumptive to increase awareness….. But what exactly is the universe doing with that awareness? Now that would be an interesting conversation - can we be free of our sacred definitions of god and religion to ask this one?”
What exactly is the universe doing with that awareness?
Excellent question we have danced around the truths we know. Because we are distracting ourselves even now, from the journey …………………and from this question, which if rephrased might be.
WHERE ARE WE GOING?
WE ARE god in all his fragmented separated parts. Broken down over time as he gave away more and more of his spirit to create new life. His subconscious parts once us become conscious and we are born and want to consume more of this consciousness
More sideways more backward and forwards ways, more up and down ways, expanding our consciousness as a bigger physical entity, in the 3D world. And expanding it in time by beating death and living longer. Not wanting it to return to unconscious as gods subconsciousness. But wanting even more to build an Internet of a massive collective consciousness a giant god brain that we can gain more power from.
But what do we want this consciousness for, what will we use this power for?
WHERE ARE WE GOING?
A traveller can be know better if you understand his journey, where he is going and why.
If we are One if we are to be gods temple for his spirit to dwell in us. Where are we going?
What do human want to do with the future? Is it true we can build a virtual Matrix and make a paradise. What games will we want to play in that paradise? Would it mean we need to take the blue pill (Matrix reference to the blue pill which was to induce ignorance, "ignorance is bliss") and have the adventure of finding our way through the game? Would we want to have the kind of games that sell best in the shops? Shoot em ups? If you were Superman but there was no one to rescue? Just Utopia, where will we go? Two videos on this are Excellent……….. Take the time if you can you won't regret it…. More distractions for now….
WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?
What would we do if we were god if we were in control?
What exactly is the universe doing with that awareness?
Excellent question we have danced around the truths we know. Because we are distracting ourselves even now, from the journey …………………and from this question, which if rephrased might be.
WHERE ARE WE GOING?
WE ARE god in all his fragmented separated parts. Broken down over time as he gave away more and more of his spirit to create new life. His subconscious parts once us become conscious and we are born and want to consume more of this consciousness
More sideways more backward and forwards ways, more up and down ways, expanding our consciousness as a bigger physical entity, in the 3D world. And expanding it in time by beating death and living longer. Not wanting it to return to unconscious as gods subconsciousness. But wanting even more to build an Internet of a massive collective consciousness a giant god brain that we can gain more power from.
But what do we want this consciousness for, what will we use this power for?
WHERE ARE WE GOING?
A traveller can be know better if you understand his journey, where he is going and why.
If we are One if we are to be gods temple for his spirit to dwell in us. Where are we going?
What do human want to do with the future? Is it true we can build a virtual Matrix and make a paradise. What games will we want to play in that paradise? Would it mean we need to take the blue pill (Matrix reference to the blue pill which was to induce ignorance, "ignorance is bliss") and have the adventure of finding our way through the game? Would we want to have the kind of games that sell best in the shops? Shoot em ups? If you were Superman but there was no one to rescue? Just Utopia, where will we go? Two videos on this are Excellent……….. Take the time if you can you won't regret it…. More distractions for now….
WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?
What would we do if we were god if we were in control?
What is God
I thought a lot about this question. But does god even know the answer? I mean to start with, would he not have had as many questions as we? After all he did just create the answers. (made them up) Maybe she had to invent the concept of questions first? Did I just call god she oops, blonde moment.
Why ….is a question, one that can be expressed by pure emotion, with out a single word. Simply through pure curiosity itself. WHY? Curiosity is good if your not a cat.
I wrote a short story a few years ago which is now a blog. I called it “The theory of everything The Birth of Hydrogen the first lucid dream” Bit of a mouthful but I liked it so I kept it.
Focusing on your question "What Is God?"
“The question is the word. It has so many connotations, means so many things, has such a history, that I wonder if we need to be using different language.”
and
“How about Spirit or spirit? I've heard people use this word effectively to get away from some of the negative connotations of God. How would your wife respond to that?”
Realistically we create unity in the world by accepting the task of learning someone else's language. We go to their country and learn how to say hello perhaps.
We don't create peace by suggesting they change their words to ours or change theirs and ours to a completely new vocabulary which lets face it words won't solve the actual problem here. But Love will.
God has been called many things Lord, Jealous, Budah, Harry, Jesus, Yahweh.
This last one mentioned is said to mean “I am” or “I will be”
But despite the ancient tradition that a name actually told you so much about a person.
This name raises a question……….
What ….will you be? “I will be what”
What ….are you? “I am what”
The apostle John answered this and I think everyone will agree “GOD IS LOVE”
Love is a spirit God is a spirit.
Emotions are also spirit
Like the spirit of love or the spirit of hate. Tho' negative emotions like darkness are a lack of spiritual energy rather than a source.
Reductionism would help if we all new more about how the words we do use mean the same things
Love = emotion =spirit =god= energy=motion
Douglas Adams - Mostly Harmless - teaser.mp3
If god in actual fact does not exist. But we humans have everlasting life after we die, if in the after life we have better technology than we do now. We might just build god. What would stop us interfacing telepathically with each other? Mobile phones can “telepathically” interface computer brains / hard drives now in the physical world.
When linked the definition of me will be changed from we to I am.
If every living being among us, one day reaches this level, and we all join consciousness as one single mind we shall also master time travel easily .
At Babylon god confused the languages, because humans were uniting as one people.
God said if we don't stop this they will grow strong and “nothing will be impossible for them”
Then we will be god and can travel back to the beginning of time to tell the first god everything that will happen in the future……………………
Or maybe we already did that just we haven't remembered yet?
Hey even if there is no after life or god.
We will one day understand science fully and cure every disease.
We already know the genetic cause of old age and how to stop it. The problem currently in question is not can we prevent old age and death, but who should get it and how much should it cost.
So even if previous said scenario was to be in a Matrix of human consciousness, uploaded into an Internet of human brains. If our brains were all fitted with blue tooth tech so we all become one mind. Then we still can achieve this building of god and going back in time thing.
Maybe when we go back in time we could scan a few brains from the past and resurrect them in the future.
I'm still convinced we will build a god machine one day which can travel back to meet the first god, he'll probably be sitting trying to work out what the future will hold and all of a sudden as if by magic a computerised god from the future appears to tell him how to do everything.
Why ….is a question, one that can be expressed by pure emotion, with out a single word. Simply through pure curiosity itself. WHY? Curiosity is good if your not a cat.
I wrote a short story a few years ago which is now a blog. I called it “The theory of everything The Birth of Hydrogen the first lucid dream” Bit of a mouthful but I liked it so I kept it.
Focusing on your question "What Is God?"
“The question is the word. It has so many connotations, means so many things, has such a history, that I wonder if we need to be using different language.”
and
“How about Spirit or spirit? I've heard people use this word effectively to get away from some of the negative connotations of God. How would your wife respond to that?”
Realistically we create unity in the world by accepting the task of learning someone else's language. We go to their country and learn how to say hello perhaps.
We don't create peace by suggesting they change their words to ours or change theirs and ours to a completely new vocabulary which lets face it words won't solve the actual problem here. But Love will.
God has been called many things Lord, Jealous, Budah, Harry, Jesus, Yahweh.
This last one mentioned is said to mean “I am” or “I will be”
But despite the ancient tradition that a name actually told you so much about a person.
This name raises a question……….
What ….will you be? “I will be what”
What ….are you? “I am what”
The apostle John answered this and I think everyone will agree “GOD IS LOVE”
Love is a spirit God is a spirit.
Emotions are also spirit
Like the spirit of love or the spirit of hate. Tho' negative emotions like darkness are a lack of spiritual energy rather than a source.
Reductionism would help if we all new more about how the words we do use mean the same things
Love = emotion =spirit =god= energy=motion
Douglas Adams - Mostly Harmless - teaser.mp3
If god in actual fact does not exist. But we humans have everlasting life after we die, if in the after life we have better technology than we do now. We might just build god. What would stop us interfacing telepathically with each other? Mobile phones can “telepathically” interface computer brains / hard drives now in the physical world.
When linked the definition of me will be changed from we to I am.
If every living being among us, one day reaches this level, and we all join consciousness as one single mind we shall also master time travel easily .
At Babylon god confused the languages, because humans were uniting as one people.
God said if we don't stop this they will grow strong and “nothing will be impossible for them”
Then we will be god and can travel back to the beginning of time to tell the first god everything that will happen in the future……………………
Or maybe we already did that just we haven't remembered yet?
Hey even if there is no after life or god.
We will one day understand science fully and cure every disease.
We already know the genetic cause of old age and how to stop it. The problem currently in question is not can we prevent old age and death, but who should get it and how much should it cost.
So even if previous said scenario was to be in a Matrix of human consciousness, uploaded into an Internet of human brains. If our brains were all fitted with blue tooth tech so we all become one mind. Then we still can achieve this building of god and going back in time thing.
Maybe when we go back in time we could scan a few brains from the past and resurrect them in the future.
I'm still convinced we will build a god machine one day which can travel back to meet the first god, he'll probably be sitting trying to work out what the future will hold and all of a sudden as if by magic a computerised god from the future appears to tell him how to do everything.
NEO YOU HAVE TO SEE IT FOR YOUR SELF
"That you are a slave Neo, like everyone else you were born in to bondage, born in to a prison you cannot smell, or taste, or touch, a prison for your mind..... Unfortunately no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for your self" Morpheus The Matrix
"Now for who ever reads this and does not understand what I'm saying, that's alright some day you will"
When they see it for them self.
If you were to drift in space a disembodied spirit, no physical body or even any physical reference point. Just pure emotions. consciousness. Unaware of why, or what, not even interested in how, just happy, an eternal paradise of smiles. If your body was thousands of tiny unformed chaotic physical particles which you were totally unaware of. Only if and when these formed into a complex matrix creating, logic and language (code) that you could use to, "see" what you truly are in your "physical "presence. Then you can understand, you couldn't have been told this, you have to become that to see that.
It's not fair!!! Why does god not let us ALL make that first choice? To stay in paradise or be thrown out for eating from the tree of knowledge? Why does he assume we will all chose the same choice as Adam and Eve did??
"You have to see it for yourself."
I had a dream when I was young.The chewit monster advert. Remember that? A giant cartoon dinosaur. It was eating the school near my house like the advert as if it was a giant packet of chewits. I was about 12-14ish. We started to evacuate and pack the car and leave, ...everyone in my street was leaving.
A few months ago I had part 2 of that dream. the same feel the same dream. Like I knew I was back in time at the same moment. But now the chewit monster was an extra large T-Rex of Jurassic Park level of CG quality. Simple same again run away...................
But this time my family was already in the car and very close to the Beast. I knew it was only a dream, but I had wanted to test my resolve under severe conditions. And planned to never leave even dream family behind. So no choice but to run break in to flight and face the T-Rex in battle.
Nightmare? No one of my best dreams ever.
Demons in dreams may prevent us from making progress, but love will push us past any demon no matter how large.
Astral travel? Real people, real pain, real fear, of the unknown and the unusual. We make it a demon to stop us going where we are unclear of the rules, the consequences. But love transcends every rule.
Conquers every demon.
Sarah in the Labyrinth says to King of the Goblins (David Bowie) "you have no power over me"
Never forget that line..........................................
It has been suggested that it is all just a distraction. Mmmm I think the only thing to remember not to forget is the important things. It is true about distraction, if we forget the important mission we are on. Unity, peace, love, oneness, world peace, end war, feed the world, little things like that. If we talk tooooooooo much about it, while people are dying we miss the point. But sleep is good. If we stress too much about it, we become irritable and not very helpful. We have to stay centred. So tho' I am being distracted talking about it now. I try to focus that energy into pages that can be read, and raise awareness (or money) to try to, DO something about it. Otherwise I would sit and just watch and feel powerless and frustrated.
Emotional awareness without thoughts.Instinctive life
With out any sensory input, devices from the outer body to detect the world around us, (eyes, feelings, ears, etc.) Life is just raw emotional awareness, in each tiny chaotic, yet happy particle? But when those particles get together in a structure that feels right. DNA Quantum DNA (Small bits) It forms a Matrix (DNA is called the DNA matrix) which lets god see himself. No one can be told what the matrix is you have to see it for your self.
"I'm just trying to understand where you see god existing, at what level of space-time."
God could only see his real self by growing into a structure. He sees in his created logic, before that he just laughed and smiled, in a illogical stupor of chaotic happiness. Until the particles created logic, we use logic as our eyes to see with. So you really can't be told you have to see it. My realization was that, that IS what Morpheus means.
"no one can be told what the Matrix is you have to see it for your self" Morpheus
We ARE god in this matrix. The One is whoever we appoint as our head. And we want that one to be all powerful and all loving. So hence god. But god was already in eternal bliss before the red pill, blood, humanity, was created. Just a bit too happy tho', so he dulled it down to this. To human life.
The more we search the brighter the light, the brighter the light, the more sense of revelation when we see that which we are looking for. He who doesn't seek sees nothing.
"What what!!!??? What does everyone else see???" They all smile knowingly, so he frowns wondering what they see.
When I enter the chaos of unformed reality, my own mind, in my dreams. I am glad of the years of time spent building such a memorable plan. Just to see god's world lets me "copy and paste" my own world. Mmm, cheating perhaps, but I am not so creative, and he spent many years to come up with interesting pass times to distract our 5 senses, and pass the time away. Eternity..................................
"Now for who ever reads this and does not understand what I'm saying, that's alright some day you will"
When they see it for them self.
If you were to drift in space a disembodied spirit, no physical body or even any physical reference point. Just pure emotions. consciousness. Unaware of why, or what, not even interested in how, just happy, an eternal paradise of smiles. If your body was thousands of tiny unformed chaotic physical particles which you were totally unaware of. Only if and when these formed into a complex matrix creating, logic and language (code) that you could use to, "see" what you truly are in your "physical "presence. Then you can understand, you couldn't have been told this, you have to become that to see that.
It's not fair!!! Why does god not let us ALL make that first choice? To stay in paradise or be thrown out for eating from the tree of knowledge? Why does he assume we will all chose the same choice as Adam and Eve did??
"You have to see it for yourself."
I had a dream when I was young.The chewit monster advert. Remember that? A giant cartoon dinosaur. It was eating the school near my house like the advert as if it was a giant packet of chewits. I was about 12-14ish. We started to evacuate and pack the car and leave, ...everyone in my street was leaving.
A few months ago I had part 2 of that dream. the same feel the same dream. Like I knew I was back in time at the same moment. But now the chewit monster was an extra large T-Rex of Jurassic Park level of CG quality. Simple same again run away...................
But this time my family was already in the car and very close to the Beast. I knew it was only a dream, but I had wanted to test my resolve under severe conditions. And planned to never leave even dream family behind. So no choice but to run break in to flight and face the T-Rex in battle.
Nightmare? No one of my best dreams ever.
Demons in dreams may prevent us from making progress, but love will push us past any demon no matter how large.
Astral travel? Real people, real pain, real fear, of the unknown and the unusual. We make it a demon to stop us going where we are unclear of the rules, the consequences. But love transcends every rule.
Conquers every demon.
Sarah in the Labyrinth says to King of the Goblins (David Bowie) "you have no power over me"
Never forget that line..........................................
It has been suggested that it is all just a distraction. Mmmm I think the only thing to remember not to forget is the important things. It is true about distraction, if we forget the important mission we are on. Unity, peace, love, oneness, world peace, end war, feed the world, little things like that. If we talk tooooooooo much about it, while people are dying we miss the point. But sleep is good. If we stress too much about it, we become irritable and not very helpful. We have to stay centred. So tho' I am being distracted talking about it now. I try to focus that energy into pages that can be read, and raise awareness (or money) to try to, DO something about it. Otherwise I would sit and just watch and feel powerless and frustrated.
Emotional awareness without thoughts.Instinctive life
With out any sensory input, devices from the outer body to detect the world around us, (eyes, feelings, ears, etc.) Life is just raw emotional awareness, in each tiny chaotic, yet happy particle? But when those particles get together in a structure that feels right. DNA Quantum DNA (Small bits) It forms a Matrix (DNA is called the DNA matrix) which lets god see himself. No one can be told what the matrix is you have to see it for your self.
"I'm just trying to understand where you see god existing, at what level of space-time."
God could only see his real self by growing into a structure. He sees in his created logic, before that he just laughed and smiled, in a illogical stupor of chaotic happiness. Until the particles created logic, we use logic as our eyes to see with. So you really can't be told you have to see it. My realization was that, that IS what Morpheus means.
"no one can be told what the Matrix is you have to see it for your self" Morpheus
We ARE god in this matrix. The One is whoever we appoint as our head. And we want that one to be all powerful and all loving. So hence god. But god was already in eternal bliss before the red pill, blood, humanity, was created. Just a bit too happy tho', so he dulled it down to this. To human life.
The more we search the brighter the light, the brighter the light, the more sense of revelation when we see that which we are looking for. He who doesn't seek sees nothing.
"What what!!!??? What does everyone else see???" They all smile knowingly, so he frowns wondering what they see.
When I enter the chaos of unformed reality, my own mind, in my dreams. I am glad of the years of time spent building such a memorable plan. Just to see god's world lets me "copy and paste" my own world. Mmm, cheating perhaps, but I am not so creative, and he spent many years to come up with interesting pass times to distract our 5 senses, and pass the time away. Eternity..................................
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